Comments on: See what I mean? http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/ Teaching and learning - I think... Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:26:50 +0200 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: David Rogers http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-19 David Rogers Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:41:55 +0000 http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/#comment-19 Completely agree Kenny. I would hope that all that we do is motivated by making learning better. Not everyone that self promotes is in it for themselves ;) Completely agree Kenny. I would hope that all that we do is motivated by making learning better. Not everyone that self promotes is in it for themselves ;)

]]> By: Kenny http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Kenny Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:26:38 +0000 http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/#comment-16 I understand that, David, and agree to a certain extent with your comments. Where I fall away from that thinking is where the act of promoting someones actions becomes more important than the reasons they have for making them. Unfortunately, I think that type of individual and even more depressingly, that type of expectation is becoming more common in schools and the wider educational community. I believe that everything we do is aimed at making learning better for young children, the me culture shouldn't be a part of that because it removes the focus from the most important person in the whole process. I understand that, David, and agree to a certain extent with your comments. Where I fall away from that thinking is where the act of promoting someones actions becomes more important than the reasons they have for making them. Unfortunately, I think that type of individual and even more depressingly, that type of expectation is becoming more common in schools and the wider educational community. I believe that everything we do is aimed at making learning better for young children, the me culture shouldn’t be a part of that because it removes the focus from the most important person in the whole process.

]]> By: David Rogers http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-12 David Rogers Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:42:37 +0000 http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/#comment-12 Kenny - I also share your dislike of the profile culture. However, I think that the reason to share within school is to make the learning better for young people across the school. Kenny – I also share your dislike of the profile culture. However, I think that the reason to share within school is to make the learning better for young people across the school.

]]> By: Tony Cassidy » Blog Archive » A reflection on sharing… http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Tony Cassidy » Blog Archive » A reflection on sharing… Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:08:45 +0000 http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/#comment-9 [...] This post is largely in response to a comment by Kenny. [...] [...] This post is largely in response to a comment by Kenny. [...]

]]> By: Kenny http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Kenny Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:12:50 +0000 http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/#comment-8 Hi Tony, have to watch how I phrase this, but I find so much common ground in the sentiments you express, unless I am misreading them. One of the things about sharing for me is not so much that it hangs you out there, but that it gives my students access to materials we have used in class and helps me find them when I use them again. If others feel they want to critique my work, I'm big and ugly enough to recognise whose opinions I should value, so I don't feel that it's self promotion to share for the reasons that I do. If colleagues find it useful, then that's brilliant, and I get so much from talking to and working with other people that I am glad if I give a little back. My point is that for me and you and most others who share, they really aren't the primary audience or (hopefully) beneficiaries of those resources, it's the people who sit in front of us every day. Which is why I have a major problem with the culture of profile which exists in schools. I feel I work hard for the kids I teach to give them a good deal, but am increasingly finding that there is an expectation that in a promoted post it's important that it's not only those kids and their parents who know that. I am constantly being reminded that I should be telling other staff and the wider school community about what I do. Until now, I have always failed to see the reason, and have seen that as something rather egotistical and unneccessary. I think that might be where you are coming from too. I am coming more and more to the conclusion that building a profile can be similar to a record of work though. Record it. Let people see it. Say what you would improve and what you would keep. Accept the valid criticisms and argue the toss with the ones you don't agree with. It's what I would do if I was being reviewed. I am just realising that in the age of information, I might just be reviewed by a wider group of peers, and if I share my thoughts on a regular basis, my record of work/achievement is there for all to see. Hopefully this ramble makes some kind of sense, this post really touched a nerve so thanks for authoring. Hi Tony,
have to watch how I phrase this, but I find so much common ground in the sentiments you express, unless I am misreading them. One of the things about sharing for me is not so much that it hangs you out there, but that it gives my students access to materials we have used in class and helps me find them when I use them again. If others feel they want to critique my work, I’m big and ugly enough to recognise whose opinions I should value, so I don’t feel that it’s self promotion to share for the reasons that I do. If colleagues find it useful, then that’s brilliant, and I get so much from talking to and working with other people that I am glad if I give a little back. My point is that for me and you and most others who share, they really aren’t the primary audience or (hopefully) beneficiaries of those resources, it’s the people who sit in front of us every day. Which is why I have a major problem with the culture of profile which exists in schools. I feel I work hard for the kids I teach to give them a good deal, but am increasingly finding that there is an expectation that in a promoted post it’s important that it’s not only those kids and their parents who know that. I am constantly being reminded that I should be telling other staff and the wider school community about what I do. Until now, I have always failed to see the reason, and have seen that as something rather egotistical and unneccessary. I think that might be where you are coming from too. I am coming more and more to the conclusion that building a profile can be similar to a record of work though. Record it. Let people see it. Say what you would improve and what you would keep. Accept the valid criticisms and argue the toss with the ones you don’t agree with. It’s what I would do if I was being reviewed. I am just realising that in the age of information, I might just be reviewed by a wider group of peers, and if I share my thoughts on a regular basis, my record of work/achievement is there for all to see. Hopefully this ramble makes some kind of sense, this post really touched a nerve so thanks for authoring.

]]> By: Tony_Cassidy http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Tony_Cassidy Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:20:02 +0000 http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/#comment-7 Thanks David Thanks David

]]> By: David Rogers http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6 David Rogers Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:14 +0000 http://tonycassidy.co.uk/2009/12/see-what-i-mean/#comment-6 Nice new blog Tony. I look forward to hearing about your experiments! David Nice new blog Tony. I look forward to hearing about your experiments!

David

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